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What has Fox got against sci-fi?

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What has Fox got against sci-fi?

One of Fox's biggest successes as a production company was, to speak of the devil again, Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Of course, it was successful for WB and not Fox, but that's beside the point. Because of Buffy, Joss got the green light for Firefly. Fox promptly killed Firefly by airing the episodes out of order, thus screwing the show's continuity. Now Fox, because of Firefly's cult appeal, gave Joss the green light for Dollhouse, which is on TV's death night.

Would Fox like to see its sci-fi shows succeed like Buffy and The X-Files? Of course they would. However, the Fox Network is a different place than it was in 1993 when The X-Files got years plural to prove itself. Fox is a company that, like all the other networks, needs instant results. If they can't get instant results, then they can sabotage other networks.

I think that Fox likes to keep big name creators like Whedon and Abrams tied up and off the competing networks by any means necessary. Fringe and Lost would be huge back to back. You don't think the CW would love to have a Joss Whedon show to give it an actual audience to go alongside Supernatural? You don't think NBC would love to have something (anything) to put on the air instead of the awful Knight Rider or another iteration of Law & Order? The CBS show The Big Bang Theory promoted Sarah Connor more this week than Fox has in a month simply because they had Summer Glau as a guest star!

By green lighting shows and deliberately tanking them, Fox keeps potentially successful programs away from the competition while still being able to say, "Hey, we're big sci-fi fans, you're just not watching the shows we put on!" Why else would they take a show doing fairly good ratings and move it to Friday, or take a show that should do better and start it out on Fridays? Why would they completely preempt an otherwise successful show for American Idol unless they wanted it dead?

In television, it's succeed right away or die. If a show like Fringe does good numbers, but not the expected or hoped-for great numbers, the easiest thing to do is save some money and kill the show. Rather than give Fringe a decent lead-in with a carry-over audience like House, Fox can just cram House and 24 together on Mondays to kill Chuck and Heroes and give Fringe... what exactly? Oh right, a vacation. Or worse, a completely unrelated lead-in show so that when Fringe loses half of American Idol's audience, Fox can justify shuttling the show off to Friday to replace whichever one of its Friday sci-fi shows dies first.

I wish I could give sci-fi fans some note of hope, but the shows that should live on get put on networks that conspire to kill them, and shows that should've ended two seasons ago (I'm looking at you, Smallville) linger on because their home network has nothing better to show. Fox's new network slogan should be, "If we can't have it, no one can!"

 
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battlefield_gir
Mar 18, 2009 2:28 PM
Lone gunmen was UNDERATED big time, fucking excellent show. i was 11 when they canceled it. I hope the same does not happen to doll house ( series is getting on its feet and becoming really interesting ) the SCC i have just got in to and i love it. Fox are morons! its a pity the sifi channel cant take the shows off their hands!
hectorbustnuts
Mar 18, 2009 2:46 PM

Sadly it's not just limited to Fox.

Even the scifi channel is cutting back on actual scifi content, instead running the Wrestling. How long until Eureka returns?

Other shows like "Pushing Daisies" (while not scifi per se, more fantasy) are dumped unceremoniously from schedules because of poor ratings. Never mind that ABC shoved it in horrible time-slots, and refused to actually promote the show's return after the writer's strike. (Yes, I'm very bitter about its cancellation, one of the better shows to come out of the States in a long time).

But companies keep making these great shows and expect to garner great viewer numbers immediately against their own self-sabotaging.

It's a lose lose situation.

hectorbustnuts
Mar 18, 2009 2:53 PM

Also (I just remembered) that most people who like scifi are relatively tech savvy and use PVRs to record shows from shit time-slots to watch at more appropriate times.

The current system for gauging the number of eyeballs watching a show does NOT count this. You get counted when the show actually screens, or you don't get counted at all.

thesorehead
Mar 18, 2009 2:57 PM
Brimstone, anyone?

More people would watch (good) Sci-fi if they realised that the reason it's good is the same reason every other good show is good: characters, stories, themes, execution, dialogue etc. etc. Sci-fi is nothing more than a setting.
Hawkeye
Mar 18, 2009 3:07 PM
I wish that were the case, sorehead, but I know so many people who refuse flatout to watch science fiction. "It's not real!" They say. "Who cares about lasers and robots?"

And yet these same people love Harry Potter. Sheesh.

- DH
hectorbustnuts
Mar 18, 2009 3:10 PM
But you're missing one of the key point I made.

People DO watch these shows, but not in the traditional "sit down in front of the box when the TV guide says to" manner.

PVR viewings (and no doubt REPEAT viewings) aren't counted in ratings numbers. iTunes downloads aren't counted and I'm almost certain that website views of episodes on a broadcaster's website aren't counted.

The ratings system is archaic and doesn't give an accurate account of actual viewers.
Athiril
Mar 18, 2009 3:51 PM
Firreeeeflyyyyy :( :( :(
iamthemaxx
Mar 18, 2009 4:37 PM
Wait, SciFi is playing wrestling.

I call bullshit.
Lord-Ezekiel
Mar 18, 2009 4:55 PM
The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Dollhouse. Fringe.
All rather poor shows & deserving of their poor ratings & shafted schedules.
Dollhouse in particular is surprisingly shit.

The X-Files was and is good - go back and watch the very first episode of The X-Files from 1993 - it shits all over the current crop of sci-fi shows.
hectorbustnuts
Mar 18, 2009 5:09 PM
Are you calling my claim "bullshit", maxxie or that SciFi screens ECW?

http://www.scifi.com/ecw/
Hawkeye
Mar 18, 2009 5:34 PM
Sci Fi - sorry.... - SyFy is screening stuff on the English Civil War?! WARGASM!!!
seeknowevil
Mar 19, 2009 10:02 AM
Athiril... I agree...

Firreeeeflyyyyy :( :( :(
seab4ss
Mar 20, 2009 10:00 AM
Dollhouse is Ok, i thought the first episode was rather ordinary but now that it is up to ep 5, they have filled the audience in with a lot of the back story including the psycho 'Alpha' doll.
Mr.Slipper
Mar 21, 2009 11:22 AM
hector, it's not so much that the system is archaic (apart from the fact that it doesn't work with digital tv, unless that's changed now), but that it's really designed to show which commercials are being watched. With a pvr almost everybody skips through the ads. While a lot of people will do "stuff" during some of the ads on unrecorded tv, a lot more commercials will get watched.
Spookywanluke
Mar 30, 2009 1:13 PM
Having family members who actually worked in the ratings system and/or installed the boxes (Same as the Americans have) - recording, watching online and Itunes are not included in ratings, which is very sad.

It's not just fox who are great at destroying quality scifi, though they are the lastest.

For example - Farscape - Chopped and changed in timeslot from 5pm to 11 pm daily when under Channel 9, then as soon as it started making money for Sci-Fi, they canned it after agreeing to host two more season.

BSG under Sci-fi had a good run except for when they decided to break up the only functioning 'friday night viewing' schedule that actually got high ratings (Stargate sg1, BSG, then either firefly or Atlantis)

Hell for that matter, The X-files pilot was turned down by all the major companies including Fox twice before a subsidiary of Fox took it on.

We've got the known case of Firefly and don't forget the movie - Yes firefly was cut early and yes I am a brown coat, but who cancels a contract then refuses to allow the writer to publish anything else under the same title? Who banns the making of any other 'firefly' based TV series even under another name? It was only through a loophole that fox has now closed that Serenity was allowed.


I agree with Lord Ezekiel that Fringe was poor (but visually pretty) and I haven't seen Dollhouse, but I really liked Sarah Connor Chronicles

On a point - no matter how poor the show may be, if given the right time slot and exposure it can make a lot of money and become cult examples: SG1 (love it but it is formulaic), ST:TNG (shit but cult), Buffy, hell even the original Battlestar Galactica - no one can't tell me that wasn't bad even in it's era.
J_Fungus
May 2, 2009 7:22 PM
D:
sif ST:NGT is shit.

Patrick Stewart would be rolling in his grave if he heard you saying that!

(if he were in a grave)
Garrat
May 15, 2009 7:59 PM
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles Fans Unite!


We are just days away from official word on the fate of T:SCC. On this Friday, May 15th, during Sarah Connor's regular show time (in the US), let's see HOW MANY fans we can gather on the site at one time to show our support of this most awesome show! If you are unaware the decision on renewal of season 3 of TSCC will be by FOX on Monday 18th May in the US.


Please join us on our Home Page, Friday, May 15, between 8:00 pm - 8:15 pm, U.S. EDT. (For us in Australia that will be Sat 16th May at 10am EST). If you would like to see season 3 please show your support.!
There will be a "count" of how many there are of us, on-line -- and from what countries. We *really* need our huge TSCC fan-base of overseas viewers to "show up."

Here is a "World Time Zone" map, so you can find out what this is in your local time. http://www.worldtimezone.com/

Our Homepage (the place to be on Friday): http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/

Discussion Thread on all this: http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2821418/UNITE%21+CELEBRATE%21+RESIST%21+5.15.2009+Spread+the+word%21?offset=200

Info Page: http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Unite+for+The+Sarah+Connor+Chronicles

Please spread the "word." This on-line "count" may mean the difference between renewal -- and that other alternative.
Phallas
Aug 28, 2009 12:17 PM
the sci-fi channels plays old sci-fi tv and it played supernatural Bicth flix like buffy and ect
Phallas
Aug 28, 2009 12:21 PM
Stargate series, Firefly, Startrek enterprise, are the only True sci-fi entertainment, all the other are

Outdated ,Chick flicks or just Time travel crap.

Sabretruthtiger
Sep 19, 2009 10:42 PM
Incorrect, Fringe was awesome, the end. The Lone Gunmen was also awesome. The problem is the media who are just slaves to government policy anyway want to dumb society down, people are starting to wake up to all the manipulation going on, (for example 911 is now proven scientifically to be an inside job, they engineered the credit crisis and the swine flu etc )and sci fi stimulates the imagination and attracts a more intelligent audience. If they had their way we'd all watch reality tv drivel and sports all day. Conspiracy shows like the Lone gunmen are a no no as the govt is up to it's eyeballs in cover ups without exposing the people to more of that kind of objective rational distrust of authority.
BRING BACK THE LONE GUNMEN!!!! and FIREFLY!!!!
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