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Are R-rated comic book films dead?

By Simon Brew
14:18 Apr 3, 2009 | 10 Comments
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Are R-rated comic book films dead?

Warner Bros and Marvel have both distanced themselves from any more R-rated comic book hero movies, not helped by Watchmen’s takings. Is this a bad thing?

Warner Bros' admission that it won't be making any more R-rated comic book movies, as reported at the website IESB, was hardly the world's biggest surprise. While Watchmen should have got through the $US100m barrier at the US box office by the time this piece goes live, and while it's bringing in a tidy sum overseas, there's a convincing argument that had it been toned down for a PG-13 rating, its take would have been higher, in spite of it inevitably being very much to the detriment of the film (and that's an understatement and a half).

The problem is that Warner Bros needed it to make a lot more money than that. Right now, Watchmen is going to struggle to overtake Paul Blart: Mall Cop at the 2009 box office, and may have a job on its hands to catch the Liam Neeson thriller Taken. It's a good $US30m behind the latter, and even with a harder cut re-release on the big screen, it's simply going to struggle to get there.

The film cost around $150m to produce, and thus the theory is that with its current worldwide take of $US160m, it's in profit. Only the reality is that it's still a long, long way away. Take out the cinema chains' cut, the marketing costs, the distribution expenses and such like, and Watchmen's balance sheet is going to need the DVD release to turn green.

That, however, was likely to have been part of the plan from the start. Home DVD and Blu-ray sales still make up far more revenue than a cinematic release (not for nothing is the theatrical release often referred to as a trailer for the DVD), and Watchmen will live on for many years bringing cash into the Warner Bros vault. But its box office numbers have still scared studios away from the R rated comic book superhero movie.

Marvel
Marvel Studios had already beaten Warner Bros to the punch on this one. It has already said, no doubt while it was rolling in the cash brought in by Iron Man, that it wasn't looking for R-rated comic book movies. And when you look at the numbers, you can understand why. The Dark Knight brought in a million over $US1bn globally. Spider-man 3 made $USUS890m. Iron Man a cool $US582m.

To be fair to Warner Bros and Marvel here, the track record of the genre isn't great in the R-rated department either. Blade II's $US155m worldwide take - $US82m of which was in the US - is one of the few commercial bright spots, whereas last year's Punisher: War Zone drove another nail into the coffin, managing a worldwide take of just over $US10m (leaving The Punisher franchise once again dormant. They'll get Zac Efron in for the next reboot at this rate).

Non-superhero-specific comic book adaptations are still going to be fair game. The $US450m worldwide take of 300 will see to that, and the upcoming Jonah Hex - based on the DC comic - is likely to earn an R rating, too. But these are surely the exceptions.

 
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10 Comments
Trekker
Apr 3, 2009 2:42 PM
shit... i like the hard end of the scale ..but i am over 18 so :)
hectorbustnuts
Apr 3, 2009 3:20 PM
Good.

I like my comics unsullied by shitty big-screen translations.

Good big-screen versions are too few and far between, and when a good one does come along, it's more often than not dragged back toward mediocrity by the eventual sequels (I'm looking at you "X-men" and "Spider-man")

Going the other way though, film to comic...much better. There are more than a few franchises where the IP's done a better job on the printed page than on the big screen post movie (The "Aliens", "Predator" and "Star Wars" franchises come to mind).

I also think that comics in printed form, really are the only medium where a lot of stories can be told properly I feel. Can you imagine practically ANYTHING penned by Garth Ennis being green lit for film, and if it is, being true to the source material?

I can't.

So let the movie companies drop the R (MA15+ in Aus) rated films.

The only downside I can see is if they try to water-down IPs ever further to slip into a PG rating.

*shudders*
Trekker
Apr 3, 2009 3:43 PM
i like m15+.. then only thing is film companys dont like it cause childern cannot get into them , only on dvd... I CURSE YOU CHILDERN.
Athiril
Apr 3, 2009 3:52 PM
Well of course everything should be made for Children, Children make the decision where to spend Mummy's and Daddy's hard earned dollars from targetted ads.

And hey, comic books are for children anyway, just like games.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 3, 2009 3:57 PM
*shakes fist at Athiril*

I know you're kidding, but they're two societal misconceptions I REALLY wish we could get over.

sexbox
Apr 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Hector, I don't think it's a misconception, I think it's an actual reality.

Just look at the figures, and talk to about 80% of parents. Why do you think EVERYTHING marketed towards children makes so much money?

Have you ever actually been inside a toys'r'us store? It's insane. It doesn't even compare to any regular computer shop, or shops of any other type. They'd be the equivalent of MC Hammers house (before he went bankrupt) of shops.

And just look at the top grossing movies of all time - ok so Titanic and LoTR aren't [i]really[/i] kids films, but Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean again, Harry Potter again, Star Wars ep1, Shrek, Spiderman, Harry Potter again, Finding Nemo...

- I know they're not strictly childrens movies, but who do you think made the decision of what movie the 3-5 ticket fees were going to be spent on 80% of the time? Or at least influenced it? - [spoiler]probably the kids[/spoiler]

The fact is, in most families, if the kids can't come, the whole family won't go. If the kids really [i]want[/i] to go, they all will. And they will all pay.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 6, 2009 1:02 PM
Sorry, sexbox...I think you misread my intention.

The misconceptions to which I was shaking my fists were that games and comics are for kids.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 6, 2009 1:09 PM

Actually...kind of no-topic, I read this interesting op-piece in "Wired":

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-03/pl_brown

questioning why adult oriented comic-book films (such as "Dark Knight" and "Watchmen") have toys and other merch aimed squarely at children.

a9bian
May 6, 2009 5:01 PM
ok,"i like"
'wired'
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Zekisu_Kirisuto
Feb 7, 2010 4:01 PM
Okay I actually had to register for my comment but you do realize that even though non rated "R" movies based on comic books make a better Global Gross income how many of you remember going to see Batman and Robin when it came out considering I was like eight at time maybe? Think about you do NOT remember much about the god damn movie now you watch it now and think "Wow what a piece of shit!" Well I personally liked Watchmen and Darkman and Dark Kight is more mature then it would've been considering earlier Batman Adaptions. I remember growing up loving to watch Turtles on Saturday mornings here in the U.S.(Know this is an Australian Website)then I start collecting the original comics that's when my view changed on comics all together only some comics are geared towards kids. Hence the certain Spider-Man comics I remember reading when Carnage was back in New York and Spider-Man and Venom go after him and actually work together, Venom has a Gun of some kind(don't remember if it's a Laser gun or one with bullets...) And blasts Carnage in the FACE. The Spider-man movie even had pre-pubescent themes which eventually turn into adult themes. Now the person that said Harry Potter is a Child Movie I consider the first three that after Goblet of fire the Books become Very Very dark. I was pissed when there were in the Hall of Mysteries and the Death eaters head is stuck in a jar and the water causes his head to form into a baby then back to an adult again. If I was a kid that would make me have PTSD. Here's what I'm getting at There are Ratings and there are cut f\versions of the film and then there are versions called Director's cuts which should be available upon Home Median release Or I don't know like they do over here maybe not have four different screenings of the same damn movie and show the other versions with different ratings. Oh and another thing anyone remember Toxic Crusaders? Yeah I do I decided to watch the Real Toxic avenger and it is pure B-flick goodness and Toxie, Rorschach, and Batman are now my favorite comic character's based solely on the creation and Story based driven events that transpire to create their personality.
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