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Are R-rated comic book films dead?

By Simon Brew
14:18 Apr 3, 2009 | 10 Comments
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Are R-rated comic book films dead?

Success
The most successful R-rated movie of all time, if you discount the phenomenon of The Passion Of The Christ (with its $US370m US gross), was The Matrix Reloaded, with $US738m worldwide, $US281m of which came from the US. The rest of the top ten list though is packed out with few films that touch the comic book sphere, or a good number that are over ten years old. The first Beverly Hills Cop, The Exorcist, Saving Private Ryan, Wedding Crashers, Gladiator, Terminator 2 and Pretty Woman are all in there.

And let's do some quick sums, too. Take the entirety of the top 10 R-rated movies list at the US box office (including Passion Of The Christ), and the total American gross for them is $US2.327bn. Repeat the exercise in the PG-13 category, and the total is $US4.127bn. For G and PG-rated movies, it's $US3.696bn. The numbers don't lie, and this is why we're in a world where a tepid Incredible Hulk reboot will be outgrossing the far more ambitious Watchmen movie. It comes in part to the length of the film, but more tellingly, to the rating bestowed upon it.

Worried?
It's not tricky, therefore, to see why Warner Bros and Marvel are looking to go the way they are. Comic book movies, particularly superhero ones, are big business now, and the people who fund them want them to play to the broadest audience possible. So should we be worried about this?

Probably not, actually. Because there's a mitigating factor or two here that makes all this a far easier pill to swallow than it first appears.

Perhaps the main one is the relative weakness of the ratings boards in the first place. We love The Dark Knight, but even we sat there and wondered how it got such a relaxed certificate. And the truth is that the MPAA and BBFC are businesses in their own right, too. It's actually in their interests to make sure these films are seen as broadly as possible, and while that doesn't mean letting any old movie through, a suggested cut or two here and there is the price a studio will pay for getting their film through. In the case of The Dark Knight, surely the interrogation sequence alone should have been enough to get a stiffer rating?

The long and short of that is that there's room in the PG-13 bracket, until the next media campaign begins to toughen things up, for dark and brooding superhero movies. And that's something the studios, we expect, will be looking to take even more advantage of.

The second saviour of all of this is DVD. Directors of comic book and superhero movies have long since realised that the home entertainment market is the place for a harder cut of a movie. It's almost the trade off: release the PG-13 edition of the film in cinemas, and we'll let you have the bits you wanted to keep in on the DVD itself.

The downside, of course, is that it's disappointing that we'll not see a film so overtly aimed at adult comic book enthusiasts on the level of Watchmen for some time now, although we suspect that the door's not shut entirely there. The DVD monies for the film, we'd predict, will be plentiful, and that may unlock one or two possibilities in the future. It may also mean that a bit more scope opens up in the mid-range budget field, although in the current climate, we wouldn't expect progress there for a while.

Ultimately though, this is, if anything, a sign of the movie industry's dependence on the comic book world for its genuine big hitters, and big new franchises, though. It's a by-product of us seeing so many comic franchises realised on the big screen, and right now, it's hard to think of too many films where the price of a PG-13 rating has been too tough to pay.

Whether that remains the case, of course, remains to be seen...

 
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10 Comments
Trekker
Apr 3, 2009 2:42 PM
shit... i like the hard end of the scale ..but i am over 18 so :)
hectorbustnuts
Apr 3, 2009 3:20 PM
Good.

I like my comics unsullied by shitty big-screen translations.

Good big-screen versions are too few and far between, and when a good one does come along, it's more often than not dragged back toward mediocrity by the eventual sequels (I'm looking at you "X-men" and "Spider-man")

Going the other way though, film to comic...much better. There are more than a few franchises where the IP's done a better job on the printed page than on the big screen post movie (The "Aliens", "Predator" and "Star Wars" franchises come to mind).

I also think that comics in printed form, really are the only medium where a lot of stories can be told properly I feel. Can you imagine practically ANYTHING penned by Garth Ennis being green lit for film, and if it is, being true to the source material?

I can't.

So let the movie companies drop the R (MA15+ in Aus) rated films.

The only downside I can see is if they try to water-down IPs ever further to slip into a PG rating.

*shudders*
Trekker
Apr 3, 2009 3:43 PM
i like m15+.. then only thing is film companys dont like it cause childern cannot get into them , only on dvd... I CURSE YOU CHILDERN.
Athiril
Apr 3, 2009 3:52 PM
Well of course everything should be made for Children, Children make the decision where to spend Mummy's and Daddy's hard earned dollars from targetted ads.

And hey, comic books are for children anyway, just like games.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 3, 2009 3:57 PM
*shakes fist at Athiril*

I know you're kidding, but they're two societal misconceptions I REALLY wish we could get over.

sexbox
Apr 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Hector, I don't think it's a misconception, I think it's an actual reality.

Just look at the figures, and talk to about 80% of parents. Why do you think EVERYTHING marketed towards children makes so much money?

Have you ever actually been inside a toys'r'us store? It's insane. It doesn't even compare to any regular computer shop, or shops of any other type. They'd be the equivalent of MC Hammers house (before he went bankrupt) of shops.

And just look at the top grossing movies of all time - ok so Titanic and LoTR aren't [i]really[/i] kids films, but Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean again, Harry Potter again, Star Wars ep1, Shrek, Spiderman, Harry Potter again, Finding Nemo...

- I know they're not strictly childrens movies, but who do you think made the decision of what movie the 3-5 ticket fees were going to be spent on 80% of the time? Or at least influenced it? - [spoiler]probably the kids[/spoiler]

The fact is, in most families, if the kids can't come, the whole family won't go. If the kids really [i]want[/i] to go, they all will. And they will all pay.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 6, 2009 1:02 PM
Sorry, sexbox...I think you misread my intention.

The misconceptions to which I was shaking my fists were that games and comics are for kids.
hectorbustnuts
Apr 6, 2009 1:09 PM

Actually...kind of no-topic, I read this interesting op-piece in "Wired":

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-03/pl_brown

questioning why adult oriented comic-book films (such as "Dark Knight" and "Watchmen") have toys and other merch aimed squarely at children.

a9bian
May 6, 2009 5:01 PM
ok,"i like"
'wired'
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Zekisu_Kirisuto
Feb 7, 2010 4:01 PM
Okay I actually had to register for my comment but you do realize that even though non rated "R" movies based on comic books make a better Global Gross income how many of you remember going to see Batman and Robin when it came out considering I was like eight at time maybe? Think about you do NOT remember much about the god damn movie now you watch it now and think "Wow what a piece of shit!" Well I personally liked Watchmen and Darkman and Dark Kight is more mature then it would've been considering earlier Batman Adaptions. I remember growing up loving to watch Turtles on Saturday mornings here in the U.S.(Know this is an Australian Website)then I start collecting the original comics that's when my view changed on comics all together only some comics are geared towards kids. Hence the certain Spider-Man comics I remember reading when Carnage was back in New York and Spider-Man and Venom go after him and actually work together, Venom has a Gun of some kind(don't remember if it's a Laser gun or one with bullets...) And blasts Carnage in the FACE. The Spider-man movie even had pre-pubescent themes which eventually turn into adult themes. Now the person that said Harry Potter is a Child Movie I consider the first three that after Goblet of fire the Books become Very Very dark. I was pissed when there were in the Hall of Mysteries and the Death eaters head is stuck in a jar and the water causes his head to form into a baby then back to an adult again. If I was a kid that would make me have PTSD. Here's what I'm getting at There are Ratings and there are cut f\versions of the film and then there are versions called Director's cuts which should be available upon Home Median release Or I don't know like they do over here maybe not have four different screenings of the same damn movie and show the other versions with different ratings. Oh and another thing anyone remember Toxic Crusaders? Yeah I do I decided to watch the Real Toxic avenger and it is pure B-flick goodness and Toxie, Rorschach, and Batman are now my favorite comic character's based solely on the creation and Story based driven events that transpire to create their personality.
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