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Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 drives failing

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 drives failing
By The Inquirer
Jan 14, 2009 | 14 Comments
Tags: Seagate | Barracuda | 7200.11 | drives | failing

Expensive drives turning into expensive bricks!

Seagate's flagship desktop Barracuda 7200.11 drives, in particular the 1TB (ST31000340AS) units, are failing at an alarming rate and prompting outrage from their faithful customers.

A new self-bricking feature apparently resides in faulty firmware microcode which will rear its ugly head sometime at boot detection. Essentially the drive will be working as normal for a while, then - out of the blue - it'll brick itself to death. The next time you reboot your computer the drive will simply lock itself up as a failsafe and won't be detected by the BIOS. In other words, there's power, spin-up, but no detection to enable booting.

Naturally the Seagate forums (as well as many other customer-driven forums, like etailers and hardware sites) are flooded with testimonies of customers' experiences with Seagate support. These are helpful enough to ship you a new drive, as per the warranty, but invariably the drives end up bricking as well.

RMA and Data Recovery Centres are also reporting that there's a very high rate of failure on these drives. One user in particular reports having set up a 6 TB drive array and over the course of 1 month having half the drives fail on him. No official stats are available, but at least one RMA middleman has told us there's about 30-40 per cent failure rates.

According to data recovery experts Seagate has diagnosed the problem and issued a new firmware to address it. However, drives that have already been affected can't have the firmware applied to them due to their locked-down status.

Users are extra-peeved because beyond the usual RMA drill, if they want to recover the data on those drives they can get stuck with a hefty data recovery bill to pay.

Over a month into the problem Seagate had still not come back to customers with an official solution. Despite the company updating the firmware on newer drives, it has issued no recall on the firmware-defective drives that are still on shop shelves. They must be waiting for some grand event to come and go, say a shareholder meeting?

Drive origin and firmware seem to be Thailand and SD15, but at least one user reports having had identical problems with a unit from the Wuxi(ng) fab and the SD35 firmware.

Of course, we've mailed and called Seagate about this, but it seems their execs are too busy to pick up the phone or write back. We'll just refer them to that longstanding truth that good names are built over years and shattered in seconds.

 

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Mademan
Jan 14, 2009 12:12 PM
Ah, the woes of new technology.

/strokes budget 250GB drive
majestic975
Jan 14, 2009 1:50 PM
WD drives are still the best. :)
Has anyone experienced any issues with the Samsung 1TB drives?
I think the Samsung F1 model is the best from what I hear.
I'm thinking of getting one of the Samsung 1TB drives.
Thanks.
Trekker
Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM
mine a 1 tb and 750 samsung going fine.. 24/7.. lovem
Darth Kram
Jan 14, 2009 2:57 PM
Crap, I've got the 500Gb version of this drive. I'm going to start backing up even more often now.
SceptreCore
Jan 14, 2009 4:26 PM
I've got the 500GB version too. but I've had it for about 4-5 months now... it's still purring like a kitten. Even after all the torture I put it through yesterday, with intensive read/write, and formatting.

/jinxed... HDD failure!

Nooooo!

:P just kiddin', but I am going to check out Seagate and see about a firmware/driver update.. perhaps others here should do the same.
SceptreCore
Jan 14, 2009 4:51 PM
Apparent;y according to Seagate, these are the models that are affected.

500 GB : ST3500320AS
750 GB : ST3750330AS
1000 GB : ST31000340AS

Link: http://bigcomputerpro.com/hardware-and-accessories/firmware-problems-with-seagate-720011-disks

Apparently they say "The problem stems from a memory bug where the cache size is not reported correctly." But how you check how much cache Im not sure... but that's a tell sign... it should 32, but it may be something else.
Jeruselem
Jan 14, 2009 5:40 PM
Just got some Seagate SATA and SAS drives for work ... not affected thank God.
oscarcharliezulu
Jan 14, 2009 11:40 PM
A buddy of mine has now had failures on 2 Samsung 500MB drives, he's now moved on to buying WD Blacks.
FrankyG
Jan 15, 2009 8:49 AM
I think that site got it wrong SceptreCore, my understanding is that they are the only models NOT affected.
Check out: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/other_downloads/cuda-fw
"If the drive bears one of the model numbers above then no action is required"
Lucky Dog
Jan 15, 2009 9:54 AM
Looks like my little 320GB is safe, thank God.
RaYdeX
Jan 15, 2009 10:55 AM
God damn!

I had 2 500GB Seagate 7200.11's brick each other within a month... I'll have to double check the exact model number - but I'm pretty certain from the look of it, that that'll be them.

It didn't help that they were my "reliable data drives" in a mirror...

So... when do we get a fix?
thesorehead
Jan 15, 2009 12:48 PM
Here I was thinking I'd made a bad choice with my WD 500G drives.

Thinking I'll give Samsung a go next - they seem to be just going along without fanfare but people seem pretty happy with them.
AnthraxPants
Jan 22, 2009 5:36 PM
I have a "nice" WD5000AAJS 500GB partial brick, so maybe Samsung drives are alright ATM? WD 500GB Overheats like nobodies business and stops reading files (though moving the drive around sometimes encourages it work). Great for installing non-critical Operating Systems or messing around with large, unneeded and unimportant files. Bring on the SSD revolution :P
llandwynwyn
Jan 29, 2009 7:19 AM
well, why do I only discovered this NOW? f*ck this
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