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Intel beats NVIDIA to the PS4 GPU
By The Inquirer
Feb 6, 2009 | 19 Comments
Tags: Intel | beats | NVIDIA | to | the | PS4 | GPU

Meanwhile ATI is likely to score the next Xbox, as NVIDIA moves to the outer with console makers.

FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear.

Yeah, Intel won the PS4 GPU, no shock considering how much they needed a console win to get people coding for Larrabee. They can either convince companies to put in a code path for the chip in Big Budget Mediocre Sequel 7: Vengeance of the Farmland Creatures by sending people with wads of money and begging, or get a console win. They got a console win, and it was the right way to go.

Some people hanging around the Sony booth at CES were nice enough to let us in on the scoop. It seems Nvidia has proverbially bent Sony over like they did MS on the XBox, and are not really welcome there any more. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys, either way, but hardly an unexpected outcome.

Sony is looking pretty desperate nowadays with a multi-billion dollar loss in 2008, and more pain on the way for 2009. The PS3 has utterly failed in the market, and there was a lot of talk about whether or not there was going to be a PS4 at all. Sony needed a reliable partner with deep pockets which would actually be there in 2012 to fund this exercise in DRM, and it found one in Intel. Damn good choice really.

The nice Sony engineering lady at CES told us that Intel essentially bought the win, a theoretically good architecture, no imminent threats of going bust, and not being hated by Sony all contributed too. With a couple of deliverables satisfied, the PS4 GPU belongs to Intel. No word if this is going to be the entire architecture, CPU as well, or not. That, from what we are told, is not final yet.

Moving on to the the XBox3 GPU, also due in 2012, we hear strong rumors (but have not confirmed yet) that it is an ATI design. Given the close ties between ATI and MS over DirectX, the bad blood between Nvidia and MS over the grand Nvidia DX10 neutering, plus memories of the XBox1, this is not a surprise either. The bed was made for short-term profits years ago, time to lie in it.

That brings us to the Wii2, also due around the same time. Given that the ArtX / ATI guys have won about every Nintendo GPU since they went 3D, this one appears to be a no-brainer. If you take into account that it will likely be evolutionary, it is almost assuredly an ATI win as well, but we haven't confirmed it either way.

So in the end, you have Intel with one GPU confirmed, Larrabee, and ATI with another almost totally confirmed. The third is still unknown but likely will be ATI as well. Notice there is no Nvidia in this equation.

That will hamstring the egos in green badly soon, forcing them to spend a lot more on developer relations and tools if they can't claw back a console win. The games for 2012 start coding in a year, so the effects will be leading, not trailing for them.

The only real way for them to get a win at this point is to buy it, and they 1) don't have any money. 2) are bidding against someone who has money 3) are bidding against someone who they picked a stupid public fight with and 4) are hated by the two companies that make the consoles they target. This brilliant management strategy combines to mean they are locked out, if they survive that long.

Next next gen consoles also will likely have a CPU which we know nothing about. That said, given that Intel will basically be designing large swathes of the PS4, it would seem to be leaning toward x86. Given that, and MS's inclination toward x86 software, that would seem a natural path for them to follow as well, if for no other reason than to protect the living room from the ARM scourge running Linux.

With that, we have the first hard info on the next next generation gaming boxes. Given silicon time scales, three years out means work starts about now. ATI and Intel have work to do, but it should be very interesting when all things are done, a radical shift towards the PC of a magnitude not seen since the Playstation replaced cartridges with CDs.

 

 

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19 Comments
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Feb 6, 2009 9:59 AM
ATI and Intel eh? This should prove very interesting indeed. :)

I can't wait to see what they come up with!
Dany Williams
Feb 6, 2009 11:19 AM
That is really going to put a sting in the pants of big green.

It will be interesting to see just how nvidia will appreach this issue and if they can dig themselves out of the ever deepening hole.
nesquick
Feb 6, 2009 11:37 AM
Can someone tell me why SONY hates Nvidia? I don't pay any attention to consoles so this is news for me.
Lord-Ezekiel
Feb 6, 2009 2:12 PM
I look forward to the next generation - but really, it doesn't seem like a fair fight - Intel vs Ati?
Big reds gonna mop the floor with Intel's sparking GPU carcass! :P
MagnumXY
Feb 6, 2009 5:26 PM
since wen was ps3 failed? yes its got probs but so does xbox and wii.
Blue Fire
Feb 6, 2009 6:20 PM
Sales wise, that the PS3 failed. :) *giggles*
Snoochems
Feb 6, 2009 10:49 PM
PS3 failed? I like mine, if not simply for it's blu-ray play back. Little-Big-Planet isn't too bad either. And this is from someone that would rather trouble-shoot a PC than play a console...
fliptopia
Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM
Now we wont get to play any game "the way it's meant to be played"

Maybe this time Sony will have espensive things like blueray as an addon....
strifus
Feb 10, 2009 9:08 PM
I dont think it failed as such but rather sold below expectations, quite unlike the PS1 and PS2 which was swallowed by the public. I also think that the addition of bluray and the lack of really good games added to the mix is/was a contributing factor to lacklustre sales as compared to the previous 2 PlayStations.

I cant really say for sure but I have owned all 3 PS's and really the only thing I find bad with the PS3 is the games that have been released as in there arent that many good ones. Sure there have been some good ones but far too few in my opinion.
Apocrypha
Feb 11, 2009 12:10 PM
So now that Sony has come out and said that what the Inquirer published (as per this article) was totally false, are you going to publish a retraction?

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/news.html?news=Mzc3NDEsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=
(report where I first read about Sony's reponse)

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11885&Itemid=1
(Sony's response)

On a related note, this happens quite a bit with the Inquirer, and they're not a very reputable source. I avoid them, because they are more fiction authors than they are reporters.
Kimmo
Feb 12, 2009 2:20 AM
Bwaahahahahahahahah...

The Inquirer sucks balls.
index680i
Feb 12, 2009 6:54 PM
@strifus.

Go look around you and tell me if you can see games on the list ;) PS3 took 2008 with the games library in terms of Exclusives.
maxamatosis
Feb 13, 2009 6:00 PM
@Apocrypha: Atomic know how full of shit the Inquirer are. Many readers have asked over and over to end this ridiculous association given that Atomic is one of the few technology magazines and websites to retain journalistic integrity, something which they undermine by publishing some of the most sensationalistic Inquirer articles.

The response Atomic give people every time is "The inquirer articles are staying and that's all there is to it." I've never read a post by atomic staff with a convincing argument for them, I've always assumed it's some arrangement come to because of pressure from higher up the publishing chain to have a higher quantity of content on the site, not caring so much about quality.
Apocrypha
Feb 14, 2009 10:56 PM
@max That is epic fail.

Inquirer sucks, and I agree that it only tarnishes Atomic's name.

However, if Atomic published a retraction, that would help things...

/hint hint
ozacube
Feb 16, 2009 6:53 PM
I think it's more a case of the *atomic* staff having no choice in the matter.

Such is life when you're owned by a larger company run by [strike]morons[/strike] money instead of good journalism.
Lazzarus2nd
Feb 17, 2009 7:47 PM
I love the little thrill that reading inquirer stories gives me though, what with me being an Nvidia fanboi and all. Its like living on the edge, one day, the inquirer will actually get it right due to sheer numbers of shite articles being written and im gonna spunk all over the shop.
MrPodgy
Feb 18, 2009 9:32 PM
since when did playstation replace cartridges with cd's? i always thought that playstation was a disc based console?

i guess that was thrown in there for humour or a point of something but its not a very good one at all.
D3M0N
Feb 20, 2009 5:13 PM
@MrPodgy - It refers to how the PS1 started the CD revolution whilst other consoles where still using cartridges.
Sparky
Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM
wow. Gotta love his association that atomic has with the inq.

anyway. It would be outside of a conservative sony to go with the new kid on the block in graphics with out any proof of concept.
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