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AMD launches Radeon HD 5850 and 5870

By The Inquirer
10:24 Sep 24, 2009 | 31 Comments
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AMD launches Radeon HD 5850 and 5870

Finally, AMD is playing the DirectX 11 card with these two GPUs, just in time for the Windows 7 launch.

Despite the anemic-looking list of DX11 titles, things are bound to improve over the coming months, just as happened with all DX incarnations before this. The difference here is platform adoption. While users seemed less than willing to take on Vista and its DX10, Windows users seem to be begging to move to Windows 7 due to Microsoft's promises of enhanced performance.

Physically speaking, both cards are huge and have a lengthwise shroud with BMW-like air intakes on one end and exhausts on the dual-slot bracket. This has always made sense, as it takes the hot air out of the case instead of dumping it inside.

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If you think about it, these GPUs are mostly brute force, just like what Nvidia did with the GT200 chip, only the economics of this are better since you can fit a lot more RV870 dies on a wafer using a 40nm process. You don't see a linear performance increase over the previous generation, but from AMD's numbers we won't be surprised if a HD 5890 SKU comes along soon with a 1GHz or higher GPU. The power features are also extremely welcome. We can recall the initial power issues with the HD 4850 and HD 4870 when those cards came about.

These cards are set to replace the aging ATI 4850 and 4870 cards on the market and will start shipping at $US299 and $US399, respectively.

In the best-case scenario possible, we'd have both AMD and Nvidia releasing new graphics cards on the same day - or week, really - with reviewers being able to pit them against each other directly. As things stand, it seems that ATI has retaken the graphics performance crown away from Nvidia.

So, to recap. Single die, twice the raw horsepower, DX11 feature set, drives 3x2560x1600 displays, lower power consumption at idle - hopefully with better thermals than the reference 4850 and 4870 - and a price premium to cause some upset to the competition. Oh, and the timing is just about right, too.

With no news from the Nvidia camp and AMD's dual-GPU Hemlock likely out by Christmas, definitely poisoning the season for the green goblin, AMD/ATI shouldn't have much trouble mopping up in Q4.

Oh, and that famous 6x4 Quadfire setup from the NDA'd presentation you saw elsewhere... that's a special card that'll be launched shortly, or at least in due time, we guess.

 
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31 Comments
LordBug
Sep 24, 2009 10:42 AM
Oh wow. If that isn't a sexy bit of casing, I don't know what is. Hells yeah!
luijustin
Sep 24, 2009 10:53 AM
Is that price in AUD or USD?
Damn good value if it is AUD.
pinecoffin
Sep 24, 2009 11:07 AM
Oh!

That'd be crazy good prices if in AUD but I'd say it's in USD.
Hawkeye
Sep 24, 2009 11:08 AM
Ah, USD - I'll update the article!
Level2
Sep 24, 2009 11:25 AM
Might seem like a silly question but, what's the reason fro upgrading the graphics card - to drive larger monitors or increase speed? I use a 1440 x 900 monitor. Will I benefit from a faster card?
Level2
Sep 24, 2009 11:25 AM
Might seem like a silly question but, what's the reason for upgrading the graphics card - to drive larger monitors or increase speed? I use a 1440 x 900 monitor. Will I benefit from a faster card?
pinecoffin
Sep 24, 2009 11:27 AM
I have seen the 5850 online in AUD for $380 and the 5870 for $545. Pretty reasonable prices imo for a new release card.
pinecoffin
Sep 24, 2009 11:28 AM
@Level2, of course you will. You'll become an instant god at FPS games like CoD when using one of these puppies. :P
Hawkeye
Sep 24, 2009 11:37 AM
Our testing shows huge improvements in graphically intensive games like Crysis, plus DirectX 11 has some subtle effects that are quite nice, though of course in limited games.

The big thing with the 5-series is that they'll be future proof for years. I use a 4870X2 in my rig, so there's probably no pressing reason to upgrade (though, then again, I still haven't maxxed out all the settings on LotRO... Hmm).
nesquick
Sep 24, 2009 11:47 AM
Most articles show this card is beaten by the GTX295 in a lot of tests and equal to a HD4870X2, kind of sad considering the 5870 is 2 4890's slapped together which in theory should beat a HD4870x2 by a considerable margin.

In multi card situations Nvidia most of the time comes out trumps with the cheaper GTX285 in SLI.

(note I am talking about tests from sites like Anandtech not dodgy ones) we have a 8 page thread in GPU's if anyone is interested in giving their 2cents.
thesorehead
Sep 24, 2009 11:49 AM
Level2 - if you play at native resolution, a better graphics card means you can up the detail on your graphically-intense games.

Of course if all you're playing is WoW, you might want to save your pennies to buy moar golds.

And if you're a SupCom player, graphically a 4770 is overkill - but you'll want a quad-core CPU.

However if you're amongst the top-level enthusiast crowd, gathering and defeating shiny new games as they come out - you'll definitely see an advantage at that resolution.

Nice design, I like the idle-power (and hopefully, noise) specs.
pkroeze
Sep 24, 2009 12:08 PM
@nesquick go to guru3D and read their article on the 5870, they've got test results vs a GTX285 and HD4890 and it pretty much trounces both, and it performs right up there against the GTX295 and HD4870X2. So for a single core GPU it's awesome
phatbeat
Sep 24, 2009 12:12 PM
Awesome news, so what was the price? Also will this mean the 4890's will drop in price now? I'm looking at getting one to crossfire with my hd4770.
pkroeze
Sep 24, 2009 12:13 PM
@nesquick BTW at video transcoding it beats the GTX295 by 16 seconds and a core i7 965 by 5 seconds
TheFrunj
Sep 24, 2009 12:18 PM
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=5870&spos=3

Using my wily powers of search-fu I've found most places listing it for about $550-600. In other words, not too bad!

-JR
Hoonbernator
Sep 24, 2009 12:33 PM
Gah that thing looks longer than my entire case... It'd have to sound like a hair dryer when going full tilt.
Negotiator
Sep 24, 2009 12:48 PM
Those two air intakes could suck in a small child when the fan is spinning at full speed.
Hawkeye
Sep 24, 2009 1:03 PM
Yeah, our testing shows this as *the* performance card.
Mudg3
Sep 24, 2009 1:09 PM
well we'll just have to wait for the reviews in the mag and when some of us get our hands on some.
TheFrunj
Sep 24, 2009 1:10 PM
Sexy pic up on teh facespace:

http://www.facebook.com/AtomicMPC
nesquick
Sep 24, 2009 1:37 PM
Phatbeat you can't crossfire a HD5870 with a HD4770, they are 2 totally different cores so therefore it wont work, you can however run them both and use up to 6 screens (4 +2).
phatbeat
Sep 24, 2009 1:58 PM
Ahhh sorry nesquick, i probably wasn't very clear. I was going to crossfire a 4890 with my 4770. Just hoping the release of these bad boys drop the price on all the other sku's.
hecktik_bro
Sep 24, 2009 2:43 PM
Looks beasty... hope to see some benchmarks against the 295 soon :) from a reliable source :D (maybe like atomic)
Argotha
Sep 24, 2009 2:45 PM
Well the card themselves are $AU 460 and 245 respectively using a simple conversion however because they have to get them to our lonely island :/

and before I forget, /ogasms multiple times during article

and now that i am prety well free of year 12 i will hopefully be able to get one of the bad boys
nesquick
Sep 24, 2009 3:44 PM
Phatbeat a HD4770 wont crossfire with a HD4890 either its a rv740 gpu with a rv790 gpu which is not possible.
iamthemaxx
Sep 24, 2009 5:44 PM
At least now I can replace me 8800GTX!
Ghost_Bear
Sep 25, 2009 3:13 AM
"These cards are set to replace the aging ATI 4850 and 4870 cards" aren't those two cards barely a year old?

@Hawkeye: And lol, I HIGHLY doubt anything these days is ever going to be future proofed for more than 6 months, with the rate of technological science and development, assembly, production and distribution increasing exponentially within bubbles of that exact rate of 6 to 9 months, within which, new technology becomes available.

Wishful thinking at best, I anticipate.
Level2
Sep 25, 2009 10:21 AM
Hi Pinecoffin, thanx for the info - it's all clear now. By the way, I searched Shopbot and found out that Jantech computers are selling a Sapphire 5850 for AU$394.47. Where did you see it for AU$380? Level2.
Lambo
Sep 25, 2009 11:19 AM
That's fantasitc. Now where are they?

Oh wait it's one of those 'Launches but you wont see them for another 3 months' type announcements.
Ezekill
Sep 25, 2009 12:29 PM
Here ya go Lambo ... $580 for the "HIS ATI HD5870 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI/ HDMI/ Game included"

http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6

SL

AIMBOT
Sep 28, 2009 8:18 AM
It's good to see the new cards on the market, but I'm yet to find a game that my 1GB 4870 can't handled maxed on a 22" native res.

It'll have to wait for a game worth upgrading for (few and far between these days).
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