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Infinity Ward responds to rabid PC gamers

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Infinity Ward responds to rabid PC gamers
By David Hollingworth
Oct 21, 2009 | 24 Comments
Tags: modern | warfare | 2 | multiplayer | fps | game | news

The fans are angry, the petitions are being signed, and Infinity Ward is paying attention - so they say.

We ran a story yesterday on the news that Modern Warfare 2 will not feature any dedicated server functionality, amongst other omissions. To say that the PC gaming community is vocally against the idea is putting it lightly.

Our opinion was pretty harsh, but reader feedback was nothing short of vicious. "Fu*k You infinity ward," said morgs36, "no sale from me have cancelled my pre order as i said in the forum if we wanted to play stripped down versions of any game we would buy consoles..." Other responses ranged from threats of violence through to reasoned arguments. "Best way to get the message through is not getting the game," said user johnnywazza. "Cancel your preorder and don't pirate it, can't afford to give them the excuse."

Online petitions sprung up all over the net, and many received tens of thousands of signatures exhorting developers Infinity Ward to re-think its stance. And, it seems, IW might be paying attention. 

IW's Community Manager, Robert Bowling, said the following via Twitter: "[The petition] definitely made a big wave, and the response will not be ignored. I'll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions and responses to it."

We've not yet had any response from local publisher, Activision.

With only a month to go to the game's launch, it's sadly unlikely that IW can turn the game around to accede to gamers' wishes, but hopefully some form of reponse, whether it be a zero-day patch or further updates post-launch, will be seen.

Our fingers are crossed.

 
 
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24 Comments
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Aelieas
Oct 21, 2009 4:00 PM
I am a pessimist, a critic and I rarely believe anything that devs say, let alone on twitter.

But here's hoping, ay?
Sheik
Oct 21, 2009 4:21 PM
This entire incident reminds me of Microsoft and their little Vista mistake...
Lets hope things turn around. I dont think IW have the disaster recovery capability of Microsoft :-)
SlickGrunt
Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM
violent threats.. god imagine the idiots over in the land where fire-arms are legal. Like someone said before, little wonder australian classification board are strict on no R-18 games
nesquick
Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM
I really do hope they turn it around, on the surface the game had all the makings for another GOTY title for IW.
Blue Fire
Oct 21, 2009 4:51 PM
I'm still glad I cancelled my pre-order anyway. :)
Duper
Oct 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Pfft.

they blew it. They're developers are getting nasty. Their CEO has stated that if Prestige edition sell out, the next game they sell will go $80 bucks.

Nope. This is only a game and if big business wants to play hard ball by trying to soak us for DLC, higher prices tags because they THINK THEY CAN GET IT and Jump in bed with Microsoft and thumb their nose at all the low lifes...I can too. Minus one customer. Period. AND I will spread my consternation. That's what capitalism is about.

DICE has some intersting things to say on these links:
[url]http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showpost.php?p=2594320&postcount=17[/url]

[url]http://twitter.com/L_Twin/status/4964309159[/url]

[url]http://twitter.com/OfficialBFBC2/status/4994905564[/url]

[url]http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/293857.page#3106950[/url]

Now, I've seen Rob on a couple of interviews on the web. This guy thinks he's doing us a favor. He, and his bosses need a reality check.

I won't be buying this game. I have plenty as it is and I can go a long time on Descent, Mechwarrior 3 & 4 (yeah yeah I know) Crysis and the free - "Babylon 5, I've found Her".

Incidentally, Mech4 will be out for FREE soon. >: ) I don't need MW2. I also understand there is a "band of modders" that are planning to do a full MW2 conversion to COD4. lawl!

..oh sorry ... did that sound bitter? ;)

Naw. not really. I just get tired of folks with money that got lucky with a couple of titles suddenly think they are owed something. ... like UT3. Just like that. Makes me wonder what people see when they look in the mirror ya know?
Duper
Oct 21, 2009 5:38 PM
oops! sorry some serious spelling errors in that last post.

Guess that's why I'm not a CEO and just some nobody ranting on the internet! ;)
morgs36
Oct 21, 2009 6:03 PM
Yes i wasnt happy lol :) hopefully with all the petitions on there own forums and ones going around the net they will listen and change there so called "better for everyone attiude with this game" i guess we will have to wait and see.

p.s hawkeye have you heard back yet??
nesquick
Oct 21, 2009 7:14 PM
I doubt a rep from this corner of the globe is going to know anything about the decisions being made at the top, still worth a try though.
Hawkeye
Oct 21, 2009 8:21 PM
Here's the thing, though - local reps are our ears to the actual people in charge, and it would be nice to have some local say "we'll take this up the chain" at the very least. Or even a "we really can't say anything".

At the moment, the silence is deafening.
RandomWally
Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM
I was actually thinking about picking up MW2 when I finally have some time over Christmas for some hardcore gaming, no way will I buy the game if the online play component is stunted. The only games I pay full price for are online shooters, everything else I ignore or wait until it's in the bargain bin before I'd pick it up.
GhostFaceKilla
Oct 21, 2009 11:39 PM
Silence?/ Read this - my post on page 5 - http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=22984&st=80&start=80

Duper
Oct 22, 2009 12:15 AM
hacked .. hmm. PB takes care of most of that these days on servers that care. It's always been this way for PC. Incidentally, the console hacking was far worse than PC. They were Modding their CONTROLLERS for cryin out loud... just to hack! There is an entire industry around hacking console games. Don't blame PC users. Humans are nefarious. They will do anything to get ahead. If it's digital, it's hackable. bottom line. If THEY as an industry want to combat it, they need to start making coasters or baskets instead of games.

btw GFK.. nice way to "wrap things up". really dude. :rolleyes: Also, if you want to make statements like COD4 is the most hacked game, remember that proportionately, COD4 was the biggest selling game ever and it's built on a very old engine that's been reworked several times over. SO no surprise there! Again, "LAZY" bites you in the butt at the end of the day.
Argotha
Oct 22, 2009 10:27 AM
When I see it, I'll believe it.
funky_monkey
Oct 22, 2009 10:36 AM
I was talking to a few clanmates and we all agree on what will be happening.

I can see that "private servers" will become the new dedicated server option. People will be making these things, then publishing the IPs\gametypes on a website for the public to connect to. I know we and a few other large Australian gaming clans are going to be doing that. We will be trying to minimise the ammount of use that we have with IW.NET.

By having private servers though, This makes it possible for pirate copyes to play as there is no need for the game to authenticate when playing. This is no longer an issue for our Clan as we will be working around the ded server issues.
thesorehead
Oct 22, 2009 11:00 AM
I smell marketing bullshit. Create a shitstorm and awareness goes through the roof - that sort of thing.

I would refuse to purchase the game on that basis alone. Release good software, and the money will come. Just ask Stardock.
CloAkEd
Oct 22, 2009 11:03 AM
Isnt MW2 built on the same engine as MW?

If so surely someone smarther then me could rip apart the code and take out the IW malarky and insert the MW code so we could have dedicated servers?

I couldnt imagine it would be that hard.
Duper
Oct 22, 2009 11:19 AM
Here's a bit of shocking news for folks who don't believe it. :http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/10/21/iw-responds-to-modern-warfare-2-server-snaf/1

Read that article. Talk about a disconnect from your market and customers. Wow. i think they fail to realized that those of us that are hosting servers and have been playing for YEARS on the PC just deal with hackers and the like. .. It's part of the territory. Also, I have a hard time believing that IW thinks Console games enver get hackers.
Argotha
Oct 22, 2009 12:05 PM
" but hopefully some form of reponse, whether it be a zero-day patch or further updates post-launch, will be seen.

Our fingers are crossed."

*when i see that happening ill believe it
Hawkeye
Oct 22, 2009 12:07 PM
GFK: Yes, silence. I know that IW are talking (as, you know, that's what this article is about), but I'm trying to get a local angle from the game's publisher's, and that's proving difficult.
cheozuka
Oct 22, 2009 11:08 PM
I Canceled my pre-order of Prestige edition today.
I felt bad about it, coz it would have been cool with the night vision goggles, but the cost had me thinking twice.
This news about the removal of dedicated servers for pc, swung me round and I canceled.
With interest in enthusiast gaming machines on the rise, I cant see how they can be doing this to pc gamers.
hell I can annoyingly put up with console ports, but being stripped of support and service is just not on.
southy
Oct 26, 2009 12:30 AM
All IW have to do is bolt on the code from cod4 - aye it's a new graphics engine but it isn't hard to copy over / modify the dedicated server stuff. Rip it out - put it in.
Fuchal
Oct 26, 2009 11:52 PM
Why don't you all quit your whining and buy a proper gaming platform? A PS3 or 360 is $500 or less, and you don't have to put up with the pathetic range of PC gaming titles. Welcome to teh future!
Millsy_666
Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM
-Fuchal
hahaha I own a PS3 and a 360 and a 4k gaming pc, and while there are plenty of games worth playing on the consol systems I wouldn't dream of playing something like an FPS on consol, and I’m sure anyone with half a brain that's played fps on both platforms will agree, I just wish they would bring out cross platform servers for fps, n we can watch the consol players get gibed by PC at every turn!
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