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Microsoft's Kinect launch laughs at sweaty gamers

By David Hollingworth
11:23 Sep 3, 2010 | 27 Comments
Tags: microsoft | xbox | 360 | kinect | gamerhate | news
Microsoft's Kinect launch laughs at sweaty gamers

The Kinect launch event reveals a massive disrespect for enthusiast gamers that overshadows the actual tech on display.

Microsoft hosted two launch events over the last couple of days for the upcoming Kinect motion sensor add-on for the Xbox 360. Oddly, Atomic was invited to the lifestyle and consumer launch, which was... odd, to say the least. However, it did open a terrifying window on how a gaming giant presents its business to the rest of the consumer landscape.

David Wildgoose over at Kotaku Aus said it best during E3 - the Kinect is not for us. It's very obviously a low-end consumer device, not for the hardcore gaming set at all. Nonetheless Microsoft is pulling out all the stops to convince the public that this is a great gaming revolution, making gaming both simpler and more accessible than ever before.

And that's fine. The Kinect's not going to impact on our enjoyment of Halo: Reach, or stop us from griefing greenhorns in Red Dead Redemption's Free Roam (it's a victimless crime!). But what we do take serious exception to is the way Microsoft is promoting the Kinect, and what it says about their attitude to a market that, frankly, has delivered them profit piled on profit and a massive amount of console market share.

"Gaming's not just for sweaty thirty year olds in Metallica t-shirts," quipped Microsoft's regional entertainment tzar at yesterday's lifestyle event, David McLean. The audience of fashion editors and lifestyle doyens yukked it up appreciatively, but we couldn't believe our ears. That's it? That's what you're reducing a huge percentage of your audience to now - a one-liner gag to make the cheap-seats feel it's okay to waddle about in front of their television sets?

And it didn't end there - the presentation featured constant allusions to basement dwelling nerds and impenetrable control schemes. Which is fine if Microsoft's courting vacuous fashionistas now, but does the company have to do it at our expense?

It's a doubly galling revelation. For one, it takes the scales from one's eyes in regards to how Microsoft regards the gaming audience, and secondly it seems to give a flying middle finger to our community's ongoing effort to improve game ratings and censorship. There's a huge movement desperately trying to educate government and society at large that gamers are, in a very real sense, everyone; while Microsoft at least gets the age thing right, reducing gamers to the image of barely socialised troglodytes doesn't do anyone any favours.

Aside from the general lack of respect, there was some content at yesterday's event. Foxtel and Xbox LIVE integration is looking really tight, Microsoft talked up Windows Mobile 7 and it's gaming integration, and - to be honest - the underlying technology in the Kinect is really quite interesting, and vastly improved from its incarnation at E3. And we scored good interviews with folks from Bungie and Lionhead Studios - so keep an eye out for our next podcast for that.

But our major take away from the day is simply a bitter taste in the mouth at being the butt of a stupid joke to make the style-set giggle.

 
 
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27 Comments
Metasynaptic
Sep 3, 2010 12:11 PM
Anyone ever see that BCF ad that paid out gamers?

I'd never shop there.
hectorbustnuts
Sep 3, 2010 12:14 PM

As a tubby, Metallica t-shirt wearing 30 year old, I resemble that comment!
Hawkeye
Sep 3, 2010 12:23 PM
YOU'RE NOT HELPING!!111!
ABCNick
Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM
Hmm. I hung out with them for much of the previous day. Who exactly was it saying all this? If it was the same people that were talking to us (and it sounds like it was) then they are lying to someone's faces. If it's a totally different marketing team (that one would assume would be constantly jibing with the gaming and geeky team) that's more understandable - they've got to engage with the air-kissing, tech-hating brigade somehow. But you're absolutely right... breaking into a new market at the expense of your core audience (insulting them no less) is unacceptable. Names please!

something about a cab ;o)
Hawkeye
Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM
Haha! I see what you did thar!

That was David Maclean, who I presume took the lead yesterday. This dude: http://tinyurl.com/2uq45jx
Dan_2
Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM
Pretty lame of Micro$oft... Lay crap on your core audience so you can win a few casual gamer types.
I also think the tech behind Kinect is cool but having to sit through an event like that would really turn me off the thing to be honest...
Funny thing is Hardcore gamers are the ones that will pay crazy amounts of money ($200 for Kinect LMFAO I know right are they kidding themselves) for new tech and you have just gone and insulted them, way to bite the hand that feeds you M$.
alexdtree
Sep 3, 2010 1:45 PM
it seems like a super retarded move to me, this whole move with natal is to expand the market to kids and as it was said "fashionitas". but by offending half their existing market it seems like its been 1 step forward 2 steps back. i really prefer the xbox experience to the PS3 but in the motion sensor game im actually more interested in the move looks actually decent for hardcore games
ABCNick
Sep 3, 2010 2:25 PM
Hmm. He was a really cool guy with us. He made lots of self-depracating jokes and doesn't act anything like the usual tech manager.

I'd hate to see him slaughtered for it (there's some bloodlust in the media these days) but it would surely be better to preface casual gamer slagging with, "you may think that gamers..." He probably took that for granted and wasn't expecting you to be there. If we slam him too hard, then he'll just start acting like the usual measuring-his-words MD that won't answer any questions. Which would be a shame.

I'm sure he'd be suitably mortified at this. I'd be interested to see his response and I'm sure a few others would.

But from having met him, I think he's the sort of matey chap who's good at telling his audience what they want to hear in a friendly way. He's more genuine than many and I'd hate to see that stop. Hmmm..
ABCNick
Sep 3, 2010 2:30 PM
Oh and just to add to this... readers should remember that this 'other' crowd come from the glossy fashion mags and such like and really do not mix well with technology and games. This wasn't a public audience but a crowd of people who would almost certainly have been told in advance... 'you can come to this, as it doesn't have "that" lot there'.
ABCNick
Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM
... and Atomic, natch :)

We all looked pretty smart though I thought when schmoozing with them that evening mind. Want a pic of the celebs that were there??
thesorehead
Sep 3, 2010 4:18 PM
*shrug*

They're just saying what the crowd is thinking. Kinda like building rapport by mirroring conversation and body language.

It's only a matter of time - every day the proportion of people who have played and enjoyed video games will grow, 'till it *is* the norm. In the meanwhile, I'll enjoy being an "unusual" gamer/nerd who isn't a fat, pasty lump with Cheeto-stained fingers and an encyclopaedic knowledge of Star Wars.
Weens
Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM
Ya, pick please ABCNick.
Weens
Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM
pic* :)
Hawkeye
Sep 3, 2010 5:05 PM
You don't need a pic. Just trust... we were the best looking dudes there.

Accept for that new PCA editor :)
Darcy
Sep 3, 2010 5:17 PM
Sorry....didn't see what you were wearing as I was a little distracted by the dishy Sex & the City actor on stage
Hawkeye
Sep 3, 2010 6:21 PM
You are so off my friends list.
elfinke
Sep 4, 2010 10:04 AM
The fallout across the interwebs (GAF in particular) has been pretty spectacular.

I've got a conference with MS in the next fortnight, I'll be sure ot be unshaven and I'll borrow a 'tallica shirt just for them :)

On a serious note, I'm also going to take them to task over this. Why shit all over the fan base which made the xbox so succesful in the first place? Throwaway line or not, it's still not something that should have been said.
the_13th
Sep 4, 2010 1:14 PM
Come on MS keep it up, see how much of a customer base you have left
R430R
Sep 6, 2010 2:55 AM
I'm coming on 30...Sweat through the summer, and should I ever dishonour Metallica then I hope my death will be quick and painful, however, I'M 1 PERSON, yes I love my games but not quite as much as family or country. My next install is gonna be Linux. So help me if those pricks at microsoft wanna claim that jeff from some place in the world created windows 7. they should have a serious look at the logic of creativity, and take a look at the fact that WE ARE FEEDING THEIR FAT ASSES
(Go Open Source) yay :)
kikz
Sep 6, 2010 7:30 AM
Bastards got it wrong. I'm 34 not 30!
Meowkitty
Sep 6, 2010 8:41 AM
it's an important rule of marketing to understand the audience.
this event does not sound unusual for marketing I just don't think atomic should have been on the invite list.

How many other computer magazines where there?
Kiwi_AWOL
Sep 6, 2010 7:36 PM
I can't see why anyone would take offense at this...

surely the elite gamer market is way too small for a console company to believe they can make money from.

they make money by making others feel like they can do, that is making it easier for them to game as though they are as co-ordinated as a pro.

no serious gamer will buy any device targetting the mass market, they alway want the cut above. Often you pay top dollar to have the smallest performance improvement.

so a mass marketed device to make all of the great unwashed un-co. way bigger market, crack a joke at the elitists.. sell a few more.

no big deal.. just means they now have a voice activated "Noob" flame in chat, and now they can probably target the mob they trying to frag. So microsoft make some money (nothing new there) and you guys stay on top... again whats the big deal?

sigh.. so it was a metellica shirt i needed, well sadly i prefer Judas Priest.
majestic975
Sep 7, 2010 10:00 AM
Its funny how quickly they forget who made them successful in the first place.
Same goes for game stores, lately at EB Games and GAME, the PC games are hidden away in a dark corner of the store, it was PC gamers that made these places successful in the first place.
Dr Nic
Sep 7, 2010 1:18 PM
Wait – are you saying I was well dressed, or are you just admitting that you unironically hate my outfit coz you thought I didn't read this site?!
Spagman
Sep 7, 2010 1:28 PM
Microsoft Australia don't give a crap about the local 'gaming community' any longer.

As someone who's been running a local gaming website for almost 10 years, this has become extremely obvious.

What they used to handle internally and foster/manage relationships, they now farm out to clueless PR companies that have nfi about gaming and even less idea about how to relate to real people.

But what do you expect when the local boss is prepared to make cheap cracks at the expense of gamers. Maybe they should give away a free Metallia shirt in a Kinect bundle now.. :-p
Hawkeye
Sep 7, 2010 6:24 PM
Meow: On my day there were at least four other gamer titles there, though the previous day - as has been said - was the more gamer-focused.

Kiwi_AWOL: No bog deal? The amount of hits this story has generated, and the huge amount of pages of discussion on sites like neoGAF and elsewhere, suggests quite a few.

Dr Nic: There goes the nieghbourhood :)
juggtron
Sep 7, 2010 7:51 PM
So if I wear FCUK, You, Microsoft will believe that I dont know anything about gaming?
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