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Gametraders asks parents to think of the children

Gametraders asks parents to think of the children

As the R18+ debate looks set to heat up again, this retailer offers some sensible thoughts on the issue of violence in games.

Gametraders may well have a vested interest in the R18+ gaming debate, but that doesn’t stop us from agreeing wholeheartedly with their latest release on the issue, in which they point to research that suggests that games do not make children more violent and that it should be the responsibility of parents to protect their kids from exposure to excessive or inappropriate violence.

They’ve also suggested four things that parents can do to take back control over their kids gaming, including:

  • Checking game classification is appropriate before buying
  • Utilizing parental controls on gaming consoles
  • Ensuring kids play games across a variety of genres, so they don’t get too into any one style of gaming
  • Ensure and encourage moderation, by keeping track of what kids are playing and for how long, and playing ‘an active role in their entertainment choices’.

That all sounds simple and sensible to us.

The Gametraders release goes on to remind us that years of research on whether violent games cause violent children has been ‘widely inconclusive’, and points to reports that conclude that violent games on their own don’t cause a child to become violent without other contributing factors. In fact, a number of recent studies ‘have concluded that it is not the video games causing violence or aggression in children, but it is the children themselves,’ says Rob Jenkins, Gametraders’ National Marketing Manager. Jenkins goes on to state that ‘a lack of supervision and control by parents over the type of game and duration of play’ also contribute.

Of course, some parents will argue that they can’t control what their kids play outside the house or watch them every minute, and that’s fair enough, but – if we may editorialise – that shouldn’t stop them doing what they can, when they can.

As it looks more and more likely that a decision on an R18+ rating for games will be made in July, one way or the other, we expect to be hearing more and more from groups on both sides of the debate in the months to come. We just hope most of what we hear is as sensible as this.

 
 
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13 Comments
Gharphield
Mar 28, 2011 4:05 PM
I have no faith that our leaders in this country will see this as clearly as anyone who's knowledgeable on the topic.

It's hard to sway an older persons personal opinion, even when you throw facts and logic in their face.
omega
Mar 28, 2011 4:12 PM
Stay positive. Logic will win.
Stay positive. Parents will realise that THEY bear the responsibility to protect their children (they cant protect them from watching R+ DVD's when out of the house so should R+ DVD's be banned?).
Stay positive.
Dont let the fears or shadows of doubt cloud what is right.
Stay positive.
Stay R18 Positive (aka R18+).
Gharphield
Mar 28, 2011 4:29 PM
I'm trying man :( just so many silly people saying silly things who are in power.

But you're right ... stay positive, keep that chin up!
Action Cheese
Mar 28, 2011 4:36 PM
The problem is its easier to blame games for your childs behaviour than accept responsibility yourself for how they act. Children take their behaviour cue more from how their parents act than what the see and play on TV..

It comes down to discipline at the end of the day..
codecreeper
Mar 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Just buy our kids a bible that will solve the problems.

ArcaneMagik
Mar 28, 2011 6:46 PM
Kids that play FPSs just turn into popped collar douches. Don't let it happen to your kids.
codecreeper
Mar 28, 2011 7:25 PM
You know what this is about ,passing the buck.

What this is doing is saying we can sell them but its up to the parents to control it. In other words Money is not going to stop us selling games to under age gamers.

This company is doing nothing but put this R+18 back in the closet.
Physt
Mar 29, 2011 8:39 AM
If violent video games and movies aren't making kids violent, why bother putting a rating on them at all?
omega
Mar 30, 2011 10:29 AM
Its not about "are games/movies making people violent" its about what children of ceratin ages should be able to view based on our societies standards.
These standards have changed over time (back in the early 1900's it was 'naughty' to show a womans ankles [mmmmm ankles.... ohhh back to the topic]. As such Ratings are needed so when some decided to purchase a movie/game/etc they can tell at a glance if it contains material appropriate.

This is nto just for kids either. If you are an adult and dont like gore/blood/violence/sexual acts/drug use/etc depicted in a movie how are you meant to know unless there is a Rating system of some kind?
Physt
Mar 30, 2011 8:25 PM
I understand what you mean by the rating system being informative for the purposes of content, however we attach age limits to those ratings as well.

I guess what I am saying is that most of the press I see on the topic is the anti-R group saying it will mess up the minds of our youngsters, and the pro-R group saying it will do no such thing.

If there is conclusive evidence to say that violent or explicit games/software mess up the heads of our kids, why attach the age limit to the classification at all?

If there is a general consensus that extremely gory or violent games should attract an R18+ rating on the basis that this will restrict access by children, why bother with the age restriction if these games/movies are not really influencing our kids?
weaselfeet
Mar 31, 2011 9:46 AM
@Physt
A few things man:
- baby steps, some ppl are having a hard enough time accepting an 18+ category for games is necessary because they haven't let go of the "games are for kids" attitude
- no-one says, extreme content isn't affecting kids, they are saying the content doesn't change their nature\tendencies, it doesn't 'make' them do anything or be a particular way. Kids may be adversely affected by the content as they may have problems processing the content, leading to anxiety, withdrawal etc
Personally, there are a bunch of games I don't play in front of my younger children. There are also a bunch of games that my wife and I disagree about in relation to letting our teen play and if either of us say 'no' then no it is.
That said, I see no difference between games and tv\movies and there is no evidence which supports the belief that there is a difference between them as far as they affect people.
Physt
Mar 31, 2011 7:37 PM
I'm just needling, poking and prodding on this topic as usual. The goal posts seem to shift continuously in this debate to the point where I've lost track of what either side stands for.

Declaration time. Personally, I see no benefit in an 18+ category for games. I also think an 18+ rating for movies adds anything to society either. What I would like to see (and I'm probably sounding like a scratched record by now) is some comprehensive research on the subject from an unbiased standpoint. This is probably a pipe-dream but I probably won't be sold on the 'benefits' until its done.

I'm not convinced that adopting an 18+ category for games will reduce the numbers of kids playing games which are inappropriate for them. Bad parenting is usually the cause for this, and if we have access to more games of this type, I fail to see how this stops them getting into the hands of kids. Bad parenting will simply mean that now we games which are even more inappropriate for kids laying around for them to use.

I'm not so naïve to think that this is an easy issue to resolve, but I just don't see how having a new rating improves things. The argument 'for' speaks passionately of the rights of individuals to choose what they want to watch/play. To my mind this is a poor position to argue from because we get into talking about degrees. At what point do the perceived rights of one group start to infringe on the rights of another group?

Maybe that's what this all boils down to. Where should the line be drawn? Personally, I think we've already crossed it whereas clearly others think it has not been reached yet.

Anyhow, I'll go back to lurking now and pop up again in a few months with my inconvenient opinion :-p
Periander
Mar 31, 2011 9:49 PM
Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?
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